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and permits only the held-out `exam` field to differ; the summary generator never receives that field.
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`costs.json` reports standalone summary/ranking input and output overhead separately from answer usage, including
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recorded retries. The chart converts summary + Jev + one Qwen answer usage to estimated USD with the dated rates in
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[pricing.json](./pricing.json); cache discounts and trajectory collection are excluded. See [the formula](./SETTINGS.md#scoring-and-costs).
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recorded retries. Panel C converts summary + Jev compaction usage to estimated USD with the dated rates in
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[pricing.json](./pricing.json); cache discounts, downstream answering and trajectory collection are excluded. Full appears in A/B only. See [the formula](./SETTINGS.md#scoring-and-costs).
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## Four primary tasks
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| Method | Fact score | Answer input | Summary in / out | Jev in / out | Total USD |
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| Method | Fact score | Answer input | Summary in / out | Jev in / out | Compaction USD |
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| --- | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: |
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| Full context | 100.0% | 4,014 | 0 / 0 | 0 / 0 | $0.006992 |
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| S | 82.0% | 2,480 | 5,379 / 200 | 0 / 0 | $0.014293 |
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| S + Jev Top 1 | 83.0% | 2,753 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.014920 |
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| S + Jev Top 2 | 94.5% | 2,974 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.015289 |
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| S + Jev Top 3 | 99.5% | 3,241 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.015738 |
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| S + Jev Top 4 | 98.1% | 3,496 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.016166 |
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| S + Jev Top 5 | 97.4% | 3,660 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.016429 |
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| H (Hermes, small budget) | 79.4% | 2,432 | 3,120 / 152 | 0 / 0 | $0.010245 |
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| H + Jev Top 1 | 85.3% | 2,705 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010877 |
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| H + Jev Top 2 | 92.9% | 2,927 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.011244 |
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| H + Jev Top 3 | 97.9% | 3,193 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.011697 |
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| H + Jev Top 4 | 96.9% | 3,448 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.012114 |
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| H + Jev Top 5 | 96.9% | 3,613 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.012388 |
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| Full context | 100.0% | 4,014 | 0 / 0 | 0 / 0 | — |
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| S | 82.0% | 2,480 | 5,379 / 200 | 0 / 0 | $0.009864 |
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| S + Jev Top 1 | 83.0% | 2,753 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010039 |
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| S + Jev Top 2 | 94.5% | 2,974 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010039 |
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| S + Jev Top 3 | 99.5% | 3,241 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010039 |
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| S + Jev Top 4 | 98.1% | 3,496 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010039 |
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| S + Jev Top 5 | 97.4% | 3,660 | 5,379 / 200 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.010039 |
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| H (Hermes, small budget) | 79.4% | 2,432 | 3,120 / 152 | 0 / 0 | $0.005902 |
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| H + Jev Top 1 | 85.3% | 2,705 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.006077 |
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| H + Jev Top 2 | 92.9% | 2,927 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.006077 |
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| H + Jev Top 3 | 97.9% | 3,193 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.006077 |
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| H + Jev Top 4 | 96.9% | 3,448 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.006077 |
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| H + Jev Top 5 | 96.9% | 3,613 | 3,120 / 152 | 4,162 / 344 | $0.006077 |
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Both summary mechanisms benefit on this panel: S rises from **82.0% to 99.5%** at Top 3; H rises from **79.4% to 97.9%**.
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Mean downstream inputs at Top 3 are **3,241 / 3,193**, versus Full's **4,014**: reductions of **19.3% / 20.4%**.
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Top 4–5 do not improve these point estimates. This is an exploratory result on four synthetic task templates,
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not a general optimal-N claim, equivalence test or proof that Jev beats other equal-budget selectors.
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Panel C plots **one-compression + one-answer total fees** against Top N, separately for S and H.
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S increases from **$0.014293** at Top 0 to **$0.016429** at Top 5;
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H increases from **$0.010245** to **$0.012388**.
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Full's answering fee is **$0.006992**. More selected evidence increases downstream Qwen input cost;
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Jev's ranking fee itself stays **$0.000175** for every N > 0.
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Panel C compares **compaction fees only: summary generation + Jev ranking**, with Full omitted.
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Top 0 costs **$0.009864 for S / $0.005902 for H**. Top 1–5 each cost **$0.010039 / $0.006077**.
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Jev adds **$0.000175** once per compaction, about **1.8% / 3.0%** above S/H summary generation respectively.
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The plateau is expected: Jev scores all available evidence once, then different N values retain different score prefixes.
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## Token and cost accounting
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Token columns are mean actual provider usage. Answer input includes the original system/task, summary/evidence and
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held-out question. **Total USD** includes one summary generation, one complete Jev ranking for N > 0, and **one Qwen
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answer (input + output)**. Recorded summary/ranking retries are included; trajectory collection and calibration are
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excluded. Full pays its answering fee and has no compression preprocessing. The two scoring repeats estimate the
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mean cost of one answer; preprocessing is charged once, not amortized across them.
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For reference, preprocessing alone costs S $0.009864 / H $0.005902 at Top 0,
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or S $0.010039 / H $0.006077 with Jev. Those preprocessing fees stay flat
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at Top 1–5; the **overall** curve rises because the selected evidence must be read by Qwen when answering.
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Token columns are mean actual provider usage. Answer input remains a separate context-length metric, including the
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original system/task, compressed evidence and held-out question. **Compaction USD** includes one summary generation
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and one complete Jev ranking for N > 0, including recorded retries. **Downstream answering, trajectory collection and
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calibration are excluded.** Full does not perform compaction and has no fee entry in this comparison (shown as “—”);
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it remains the reference for answer quality and input length in A/B. No zero-total-cost claim is made for Full.
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The two scoring repeats do not amortize compaction fees.
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Prices checked **2026-10-16**, per million tokens:
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| Qwen `qwen3.8-max`, China (Beijing) | $1.65 | $4.951 | [Alibaba Cloud](https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/qwen3-8-max) |
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| Jev `jev-1.13.0`, direct TypeSafe | $0.042 | $0 | [TypeSafe](https://docs.typesafe.ai/models) |
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`total_usd = ((summary_input + answer_input) × 1.65 + (summary_output + answer_output) × 4.951
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+ jev_input × 0.042) / 1,000,000`.
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`compaction_usd = (summary_input × 1.65 + summary_output × 4.951 + jev_input × 0.042) / 1,000,000`.
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[pricing.json](./pricing.json) freezes the rates, sources and scope. These are **uncached public-list-price estimates**:
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all prompt tokens are priced at the regular input rate, even where API usage reports cache hits. Free quotas, discounts,
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credits, taxes and account billing differences are excluded. This is a one-answer list-price comparison, not invoice reconciliation. In this horizon every compressed method
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costs more than Full; future-turn amortization or total savings have not been established.
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all summary prompt tokens are priced at the regular input rate, even where API usage reports cache hits. Free quotas,
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discounts, credits, taxes and account billing differences are excluded. This measures the incremental cost of adding
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Jev to a summary, not end-to-end monetary savings or invoice reconciliation.
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One shared ranking serves Top 1–5 and both mechanisms in the experiment; each standalone fused method includes its full
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cost, neither multiplied by N nor divided across sweep conditions.
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<details>
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<summary>Ten short/query-only controls</summary>
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| Method | Fact score | Answer input | Summary in / out | Jev in / out | Total USD |
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| Method | Fact score | Answer input | Summary in / out | Jev in / out | Compaction USD |
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| Full context | 100.0% | 2,727 | 0 / 0 | 0 / 0 | $0.004692 |
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| S | 67.1% | 2,315 | 1,099 / 74 | 0 / 0 | $0.006175 |
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| S + Jev Top 1 | 84.7% | 2,493 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.006517 |
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| S + Jev Top 2 | 87.5% | 2,573 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.006654 |
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| S + Jev Top 3 | 92.9% | 2,687 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.006843 |
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| S + Jev Top 4 | 92.9% | 2,722 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.006901 |
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| S + Jev Top 5 | 92.5% | 2,722 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.006901 |
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| H (Hermes, small budget) | 73.2% | 2,308 | 1,944 / 69 | 0 / 0 | $0.007532 |
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| H + Jev Top 1 | 80.1% | 2,486 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.007871 |
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| H + Jev Top 2 | 92.5% | 2,566 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.008019 |
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| H + Jev Top 3 | 99.2% | 2,680 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.008204 |
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| H + Jev Top 4 | 99.2% | 2,715 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.008263 |
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| H + Jev Top 5 | 98.8% | 2,715 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.008264 |
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| Full context | 100.0% | 2,727 | 0 / 0 | 0 / 0 | — |
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| S | 67.1% | 2,315 | 1,099 / 74 | 0 / 0 | $0.002179 |
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| S + Jev Top 1 | 84.7% | 2,493 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.002218 |
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| S + Jev Top 2 | 87.5% | 2,573 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.002218 |
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| S + Jev Top 3 | 92.9% | 2,687 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.002218 |
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| S + Jev Top 4 | 92.9% | 2,722 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.002218 |
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| S + Jev Top 5 | 92.5% | 2,722 | 1,099 / 74 | 929 / 50 | $0.002218 |
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| H (Hermes, small budget) | 73.2% | 2,308 | 1,944 / 69 | 0 / 0 | $0.003550 |
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| H + Jev Top 1 | 80.1% | 2,486 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.003589 |
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| H + Jev Top 2 | 92.5% | 2,566 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.003589 |
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| H + Jev Top 3 | 99.2% | 2,680 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.003589 |
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| H + Jev Top 4 | 99.2% | 2,715 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.003589 |
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| H + Jev Top 5 | 98.8% | 2,715 | 1,944 / 69 | 929 / 50 | $0.003589 |
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These controls are not ten additional long-context tasks. Their small source-unit counts can make Top N saturate.
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Answer input includes system/task, compressed history and exam. Standalone-method overhead includes one summary and,
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for N > 0, one whole Jev ranking, including recorded retries. Ranking cost is identical across N and both mechanisms;
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do not multiply by N or divide by sweep size. Evaluation repeats do not amortize overhead. Report input/output tokens
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by model. Total fees use [pricing.json](./pricing.json), checked 2026-10-16: Qwen `qwen3.8-max` China (Beijing)
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by model. Compaction fees use [pricing.json](./pricing.json), checked 2026-10-16: Qwen `qwen3.8-max` China (Beijing)
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input **$1.65/M**, output **$4.951/M** ([official rate](https://www.alibabacloud.com/help/en/model-studio/qwen3-8-max));
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Jev `jev-1.13.0` input **$0.042/M**, output free ([official rate](https://docs.typesafe.ai/models)).
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`total_usd = ((summary_input + answer_input) * 1.65 + (summary_output + answer_output) * 4.951
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+ jev_input * 0.042) / 1e6`.
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At Top 0 charge summary generation plus one Qwen answer; Top 1–5 add one identical whole Jev ranking
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and charge the Qwen answer on the enlarged context. Mean usage is averaged across
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the same tasks/generations; fees are computed from unrounded usage. Recorded retries are included. The plotted amount
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includes one downstream answer and excludes collection/calibration. Full pays its actual mean answering fee and
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no compression preprocessing. Two scoring repeats estimate the cost of one answer; they do not amortize overhead.
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These are uncached list-price estimates: cache hits are deliberately charged at the regular input rate for comparison.
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No free quotas, promotions, taxes or account-specific adjustments are applied. Prices are a dated snapshot, not an invoice;
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no total monetary saving is claimed.
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`compaction_usd = (summary_input * 1.65 + summary_output * 4.951 + jev_input * 0.042) / 1e6`.
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At Top 0 charge only summary generation; Top 1–5 each add one identical complete Jev ranking. Mean usage is averaged
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across the same tasks/generations, and fees are computed from unrounded usage. Recorded summary/ranking retries are
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included. **Downstream answering, collection and calibration are excluded.** Full is excluded from panel C and has
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“—” in the cost table; it remains the quality/input reference in A/B. Scoring repeats do not amortize preprocessing.
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These are uncached list-price estimates: summary cache hits are charged at the regular input rate for comparison.
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No free quotas, promotions, taxes or account-specific adjustments are applied. Prices are a dated snapshot, not an
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invoice. This scope measures summary + Jev compaction overhead, not total execution cost or monetary savings.
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## Reproduction levels and artifact availability
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filtering or removing conditions: Top 3–5 each shorten 9/12 primary contexts in both mechanisms. The H fusion arms
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shorten 172/210 contexts (51/60 primary, 121/150 controls). Summary-only H still shortens all 42/42.
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For costs, each independent method includes one summary generation when applicable, one complete Jev ranking when
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N > 0, and one downstream answer. Recorded retry usage is included. One ranking is shared across the Top-N sweep and
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For compaction costs, each independent method includes one summary generation and one complete Jev ranking when
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N > 0. Downstream answering is excluded. Recorded retry usage is included. One ranking is shared across the Top-N sweep and
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mechanisms in the actual experiment; its standalone-method cost is neither multiplied by N nor divided by sweep size.
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The two answer repeats do not amortize compression overhead. Report provider input/output tokens separately.
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The current chart estimates summary + Jev + one downstream answer fees from the dated public USD rates in [pricing.json](./pricing.json),
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using uncached input pricing and excluding trajectory collection. [Settings](./SETTINGS.md#scoring-and-costs) define
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Panel C estimates summary + Jev compaction fees from the dated public USD rates in [pricing.json](./pricing.json),
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using uncached input pricing and excluding downstream answering and trajectory collection. Full appears in A/B only. [Settings](./SETTINGS.md#scoring-and-costs) define
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the formula and exclusions; this is not an account invoice or a claim of total pipeline savings.
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"output": 0.0,
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"source": "https://docs.typesafe.ai/models"
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},
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"scope": "One summary generation plus one complete Jev ranking when N > 0, plus one downstream Qwen answer; recorded summary/ranking retries included; trajectory collection excluded",
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"scope": "Compaction only: one summary generation plus one complete Jev ranking when N > 0; recorded retries included; downstream answering and trajectory collection excluded; Full omitted from the cost comparison",
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"billing_basis": "Public list-price estimate; all input charged at uncached rate; no credits, promotions, taxes, exchange conversion or invoice reconciliation"
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}
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Summaries shorten history but can omit exact identifiers, configuration values or log details needed for a later answer.
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This experiment asks: **can a few Jev-selected original evidence blocks recover information missing from a fixed summary,
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and does that benefit occur with both a generic summary and a Hermes summary?** Answer input and total fees show the
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tradeoff between retained information, context length and cost.
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tradeoff between retained information, context length and compaction cost.
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### Experimental setup
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### Reading the figure and conclusions
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- **A: selected originals help both summary mechanisms on this panel.** Full scores 100%; Top 3 improves S from
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**82.0% to 99.5%**, and H from **79.4% to 97.9%**. This supports supplementing these summaries with original evidence;
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- **B: higher retention consumes more context than summary alone.** Top 3 uses **3,241 / 3,193** mean answer-input tokens
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for S/H, versus Full's **4,014**, reductions of **19.3% / 20.4%**. Both exceed their summary-only input. Top 4–5 do not
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improve the scores: more original text does not guarantee better answers.
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- **C: there is no total-cost saving over a single post-compression answer here.** Fees include **summary generation +
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one Jev ranking + one Qwen answer, input and output**. At Top 3, S/H cost about **$0.015738 / $0.011697**, versus Full's
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**$0.006992**. Ranking fees are identical at Top 1–5; reading additional evidence increases Qwen's fee. These are
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public USD list-price estimates dated 2026-10-16, excluding cache discounts, free quotas and account offers, not invoices.
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- **C: compare compaction fees only.** Top 0 pays for Qwen summary generation: **$0.009864 / $0.005902** for S/H.
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Top 1–5 each pay for summary generation plus one complete Jev ranking: **$0.010039 / $0.006077**.
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Jev adds **$0.000175**, about **1.8% / 3.0%** of S/H summary fees. The curve plateaus because Jev scores all evidence
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once before selecting Top N. **C excludes downstream answering and omits Full; Full remains the reference in A/B.**
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Fees use public USD list prices dated 2026-10-16, excluding cache discounts, free quotas and account offers.
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This is neither an invoice nor evidence of end-to-end savings.
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**Scope:** the primary result covers four synthetic task templates; ten controls are separate. All 42 H-only contexts
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shorten Full, but Top 3–5 shorten only **9/12 primary contexts per method**, with every case still scored. Strict field scoring includes format compliance; semantically equivalent wording can still lose credit.
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摘要可以缩短历史,但可能丢失后续回答需要的精确标识符、配置值或日志细节。本实验考察:**在摘要保持不变的基础上,
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追加 Jev 选出的少量原文,能否补回这些信息?这一增益能否同时出现在普通摘要和 Hermes 摘要中?**
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同时报告回答输入量和总费用,观察信息保留、上下文长度与开销之间的取舍。
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同时报告回答输入量和压缩费用,观察信息保留、上下文长度与开销之间的取舍。
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### 实验设置
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### 读图与结论
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- **A:两种摘要都能从追加原文中获益。** Full 的字段正确率为 100%;Top 3 将 S 从 **82.0% 提升至 99.5%**,
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将 H 从 **79.4% 提升至 97.9%**。这支持“摘要 + 关键原文”在本组任务中补充摘要遗漏的信息,尚不能证明通用优势或与 Full 统计等价。
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- **B:以更多上下文换取更高的信息保留率。** Top 3 的平均回答输入为 S **3241**、H **3193 tokens**,
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相比 Full 的 **4014 tokens** 分别减少 **19.3%/20.4%**,但都高于各自纯摘要。Top 4~5 未继续提分,更多原文不保证效果更好。
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- **C:按一次压缩后回答计算,当前没有总费用节省。** 总费用包含**摘要生成 + 一次 Jev 排名 + 一次 Qwen 回答的输入/输出**。
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曲线的增长来自 Qwen 读取更多原文。费用按 2026-10-16 的公开 USD 标价估算,未计缓存折扣、免费额度或账户优惠;不是实际账单。
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- **C:只比较压缩本身的费用。** Top 0 只计 Qwen 生成摘要的费用:S/H 约 **$0.009864/$0.005902**;
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Top 1~5 均为“摘要 + 一次完整 Jev 排名”,约 **$0.010039/$0.006077**。Jev 额外增加约 **$0.000175**,
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即摘要费的 **1.8%/3.0%**。Jev 先给全部证据打分,再取 Top N,因此 Top 1~5 的压缩费用相同,曲线呈平台。
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**C 不计压缩后的回答费用,也不展示 Full;Full 仅在 A/B 作为效果和输入量参考。**
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费用按 2026-10-16 的公开 USD 标价估算,未计缓存折扣、免费额度或账户优惠;不代表实际账单或端到端费用节省。
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**结果边界:** 主结论来自 4 个合成任务模板;10 个短任务对照不混入主图。纯 H 的 42 个上下文均短于 Full,
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但 Top 3~5 每种方法仅有 **9/12 个主任务上下文**实际缩短,全部样例均保留评分。严格字段评分包含格式要求,语义相同但格式不同也可能失分。
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